MORE NCI testimonies - DAY 1 of ROUND 2 in Regina
Invitation & attempts at NOTE TAKING as the day goes by (McKernan; Rose; Haviland; Schabas; Hodkinson)
UPDATE:
ALL THE REGINA TESTIMONIES can now be seen here:
https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/hearings-2024/ (FOLLOW THE LINK to RUMBLE)
(Looking for the Directory of testimonies from 2023? Scroll to the bottom of this post.)
Email to media:
Ever wonder what Kevin McKernan, the research director on the Human Genome Project at MIT is up to now? After turning his attention to sequencing the Cannabis Genome as well, his next big project was to take a closer look at the COVID-19 vaccine. Here is your chance to hear him explain his findings - What is with the mRNA in these injections? Is there truth to the idea that they contain DNA? What about the "conspiracy theory" that these products could have an impact on human DNA? Tune in THIS MORNING as Kevin McKernan testifies to the second round of National Citizens Inquiry hearings streaming live from Regina, Canada (and available online after for those unable to log on now).
In 2023, this independent, non-partisan inquiry heard from over 300 expert and lay witnesses from 8 cities and published a wide range of recommendations to be considered by policy makers at all levels.
This year the first stop is in Regina, where four commissioners are set to hear more sworn testimonies re: the impacts of the Covid related policies on Canadians. Tune in here: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/live/ from May 30, 31 & June 1, 2024 9am to 6pm Central Standard Time.
(Note, as this is all volunteer run, please be patient with delays, technical glitches, etc.)
Other well-known expert witnesses will include:
- Former Air Force Major Thomas Haviland
- Former Ontario Chief Medical Officer of Health, Dr. Richard Schabas
- Maternal-fetal medicine specialist Dr. James Thorpe
- Computational Biologist Dr. Jessica Rose
- Dr. Pierre Kory, Critical care research pioneer and physician
- Gut Microbiome researcher, Dr. Sabine Hazan
- Dr. Tess Lawrie - medical doctor, research consultant (formerly for the WHO) and co-founder of the World Council for Health
as well as
- Canadian Olympic Figure Skater Jamie Sale
- Financial Analyst Lex Acker
- Hon. Nadine Wilson, Saskatchewan MLA
and many more!
What do these people all know about what could have/should have been done better or differently these past four years? Why have our mainstream media been silent about the National Citizen Inquiry in 2023?
It is time to break the silence. Canadians demand to know.
TUNE IN to Listen, Learn and Recommend!
Press Kit: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/media-kit/
Social Media: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/social/
Access clips here: https://rumble.com/c/NCIClips
Over time, all individual testimonies will be added to the NCI main site with transcripts and copies of expert witness testimony exhibits.
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As of June 2, 2024 we have found two larger news outlets who have covered the Regina hearings:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/peer-review-process-for-covid-vaccines-utterly-broken-researcher-tells-national-citizens-inquiry-5660068 (Focussing on the testimonies of Kevin McKernan and Ret. Major Tom Havilland
(Notably, they are both written by the same author.)
On a side note, Lethbridge based Bridge City News ran a few pieces on the 2023 hearings.
https://bridgecitynews.ca/?s=National+citizens+inquiry
The Canadian Press (CP) news agency often cited by major Canadian media outlet shows this search result:
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NEW THIS YEAR, 2 new commissioners. See: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/meet-the-commissioners/
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Kevin McKernan
(What follows is a simplistic ‘layperson’ summary - It is worth listening to the testimony in entirety once it is posted back on the NCI site)
Explains how they used a version of PCR to find DNA contamination in the vaccines.
Points out how there was a “bait and switch” - the product samples that were used for clinical trials were made a different way for general distribution. It is the second method that has the contamination
This makes it a completely biological product. Should not be covered by the original approval process.
fact-checkers who tried to negatively portray the information McKernan et al found are financially tied to Pharma
whether a study can be replicated is more valid than if there is peer review yet. The findings were reproduced in many places. Now peer reviewed There isn’t anyone who is NOT finding the DNA contamination I the vaccines. Health regulators are now confirming that they are aware the contamination is there. Not sure what it means though.
a technique involving florescent dye shows more than others. As more people publish, the technique will be refined
Software tools used in the development intentionally annotate all components, but in order for (the particular thing) not to be shown, someone at Pfizer would have had to intentionally Scrub the digital record before submitting for approval
“too small a link and too small a quantity to matter” the regulators’ argument can be refuted in the research
two things in these vaccines attacking the tumour suppressor gene (spike protein being the second)
genomic DNA can come through when vaccine cell culture grown, for example in egg so now there is a so-called “safe” line, (10ng) under a certain amount of DNA is allowed (naked, non integration prone)
Presented papers for the record - under what conditions does DNA integrate into the human cell - so this concern is not a “conspiracy theory” - it is known. The difference with Pfizer/Moderna
if you leave DNA behind it is a CANCER RISK - statements in Moderna’s own patent documents
RNA and DNA not disappearing in 48 hours as we were told
Rapid rise of cancer rates after vaccine roll out.
Multiple possible theories between connection of COVID-19 vaccines and cancer
Regulatory agencies saying “yeah we weren’t exactly told about that” - Key things not disclosed to regulators
The “fact checkers” have moved on, “now saying OK it is there, but it will never get to the nucleus.” He presents papers that show this does happen.
ATIP request from Scoops Magoo - looking at emails between Health Canada and Pfizer - On record that Pfizer doesn’t have an assay to measure the length, while Health Canada says it is safe, etc.
Health Canada privately telling Pfizer to remove it WHILE telling Canadians it is safe (Rackeering)
See
DNA is not degraded in “expired” vials - same findings in “expired” vs “unexpired” vials - He discussed ways to “deflate” or “inflate” the numbers for DNA or RNA to get the products to meet the regulator speculations
Need to use soap and heat to open the lipid nanoparticles so you can get at the mRNA to measure it
Germany is known to have the most contaminated lots.
40-45 CT positive for PCR 20CT = 1 millionfold less nucleic acid in your nose… they are willing to inject 1 million fold MORE nucleic acid in you than what they are deeming “positive” for Covid in testing.
Shared leading edge work not yet published - preliminary trial if DNA made it into cells and genomes - in MODELS not in CELL LINES - need much more confirmation
Paul Offit’s common critiques - but major conflicts of interests. U-Pan has a billion dollars in royalties of the vaccines. His critiques contradict with published papers.
Implications - now it is possible to test to sequence DNA for these purposes:
These types of clinics are reaching out to McKernan to ask how they can ensure samples are not contaminated
Need a tool to fish out which cells are impacted (best hypothesis 7% of cells are impacted) - focus your sequence work on just that portion of cells.
Florida Surgeon General Joe Ladapo was right when he said the products should be pulled. He didn’t have all the data we have today, but he was given access to the findings available at the time.
DNA IS A FORENSIC MARKER. DNA is a forensic marker showing a problem. But even it if were to be “cleaned up” there are still other problems:
toxicity of lipid nanoparticles
the issue of pseudouridine preventing decay of
transfection of foreign proteins into the endothelium
The vaccines are contaminated, adulterated and don’t work. They may be harming more people than they are helping.
A product only meant to be given once has been taken 5 or 6 times by many.
Q & A
We found a piece of DNA from the spike sequence in Chromosome 12 - this was done in cancer cell lines. not a firm answer on how it pertains to patients and how long it can last
We do not yet know how permanent this integration may be. We ran qPCR in DNA and RNA - growing the cells after they have been treated. We pull them and let them grow repeatedly, measuring in the cells and in the fluid growing in - surviving several passages
Critics say “This is meaningless unless you prove integration” - it could take a year or two to have definitive answers, but already papers showing it coming along far enough.
DNA is meant to last a lifetime. RNA is more ephemeral (the modification are making them last longer)
Q: In the few moths that it took to develop these vaccines could they possibly have evaluated the genetic risks?
A: Pfizer/Moderna were NOT obligated to do genotoxicity studies. (Astra Zeneca WAS forced to go through that.) I don’t think they could have done those studies in time, those studies take time. Clinical trials were staged to only monitor short term adverse events. It seems that they realized there would be problems
What I said about “cleaning up the DNA” was with regard to the future use of mRNA products (not within someone who has the shots now)
JP Morgan Biotech conference. “The Biotech field has the foot on the gas to keep making these mRNA vaccines.”
it is reported that 4% of the lots is where the vast majority of the adverse events are (in this case not include cancer)
Q: How did the agencies get fooled by this technique?
A: The most charitable interpretation is to say they were under high pressure to act given the manufactured emergency status they were under.
But there is another line of evidence in the EMA (European Medicine Agency) documents. The RNA integrity number dropped to 55% (well below 75% as per the regulations). “When the Emergency Flag is waved, the regulations get ignored. Whoever has the power to declare emergencies will steamroll over all the regulations.”The danger of given the WHO the power to declare emergencies.
A commissioner pointed out: Young people have virtually no chance of dying from COVID yet Health Can is recommending that young people take these vaccines where there is supposedly “virtually no chance” of adverse events - but we now know there is more than “virtually no chance of” problems with the products.
re: a question about a statement by Paul Offit
“When people are talking out of both sides of their mouth, they are conflicted. Follow the money.”
Pfizer accrued the largest find every (2 billion ) but here they gained 100 billion. Now acquiring cancer product lines. They know what their product is doing.
Q: if the vial tested at different points — top, bottom we were told there are differences in quality
A: this might be true with the LNPs but we haven’t noted that in our work. Like oil and water, if you let it sit the lipids settle out, fat bubbles clump gother and grow in size. This can destroy cells. The reason for refrigeration was to reduce potential of large fat bubbles forming… . To keep the droplet size consistent
Q: How long was this problem of DNA contamination known?
We had early pre-prints out in October. Since January 2024 it was pretty clear that the DNA is contaminated.
Vaccine injuries are off the chart
We have forensic levels of contaminants in every vial - very clear violation FDA guidelines of undisclosed gene therapy. Until we reorganize the agencies they are going to continue to “whistle past the graveyards”
Q: other possible types of contaminants in the vials?
Our lab doesn’t have the equipment to look at anything other than nucleotides. There are other hypotheses. We are a genomic shop and can’t comment on the integrity of the lipid nanoparticles or anything else that might be in there.
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Dr. JESSICA ROSE
background in molecular biology, biochemistry, immunology, computational biology
in 2023 she presented about the VAERS data, now on that and other topics
Many regulators still claim DNA is not a problem (they now recognize it exists)
Dr. Rose also spoke of what Kevin McKernan spoke about re: the manufacturer scrubbing out the record of certain plasmids in the information disclosed to the regulators compared to the contents mapped out independently.
The regulators constantly underplay the dangers of SV 40 - which was all learned about though the hard work of journalists doing FOIA requests. Mentioning the David Speicher paper here in Canada.
Thanks to Noel Chartier, we now know that Health Canada won’t say if they asked Pfizer to remove the SV40 from the COVID shots. They claim it has nonfiction. Jessica points out that it has no role or purpose for being in the shots.
The precautionary principle is being ignored in Canada. Meanwhile the surgeon general of Florida Joseph Ladapo has ceased all COVID vaccination
The debate is no longer WHETHER the shots are contaminated with DNA - instead the question is HOW contaminated.
Anyone with friends with neurological disturbances since their shot might take note of this
DNA repair is a normal bodily process. It has been impaired for some people after the injection
ON another topic…. Spike protein
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Recalled millions of batches in Japan
don’t know how many of the vials that went into bodies were cloudy vs clear. Curious about this as it is the first criteria re: signs of contamination. What would have been the results if we had pulled outdated vials.
IMPORTANT conversation with John Campbell, we owe a big debt of gratitude here, showing all Covid shots are GMOs. AZ and J&J were officially classified as GMOs - went to get a GMO licence. It could be that Pfizer/Moderna know they qualified and did not get a GMO licence.
How do define if something is GMO:
A process called reverse transcription has been known for a long time and also experiments around integration.
This would explain why some people still show positive for spike protein long after their injection, examples of 60 days, even over a year (when they stopped measuring.)
The first part of the contract (i.e. Pfizer purchase contract) would have shown the disclaimer around what is not yet know about harms.
The limits around the minimal amount allowed was referring to “naked DNA” which doesn’t apply to DNA in lipid nanoparticles
when the actual data is not suppressed, the CDC will need to take down false claims like this:
If another pandemic is declared and pandemic preparedness processes will be declared, and we have to take yet another product, just know that…….everything they said as fact has been proven wrong…
Q & A
Spike protein seems to cause red blood cells to stick together. It lowers the forced that naturally repeal the red blood cells from each other (zetapotential) Spike protein treats a velcro effect. Naturally when massive amounts of spike protein are being made, they take the cells for destruction by immune cells. Markers of inflation will drive immune cells to that site. Lots of published information on spike. Also on the toxicity of spike protein. The cells keep making spike protein with no off switch.
the moment the regulators learned there was contamination in Vilas they should have been recalled. There could have been integration into the sperm/egg cells (germline cells) Certain people do have adverse event profiles
we are altering our basic genetic makeup
Q from a lawyer: the potential for legal ramification and patent law with GMO
Q: spike in infant deaths breastfeaig with vaccinated mother, could be be related to the vaccines, just like the link with young males and myocarditis
Yes, papers show the evidence - eg. 17 reports of babies with very serious adverse events (like febrile seizure, ant age of less than six months can damage for life) happening within minutes of feeding Symptom text column in VAERS - quoting mothers making the connections
Q: re: shedding
A: any bodily fluid is suspect, is the person receiving a blood transfusion getting spike, or anything other than spike. Because there is so much suppression of information, we are not doing the necessary studies. “We need to be allowed to ask the questions and do the studies.”
Q: Rise of cancers going up while rates of injections going down. Is there a latent effect?
A: Yes. A lot of rare cancers being reported at first. Also a lot of patients coming out of remission. I don’t know why it takes someone longer to progress to a larger timer than another person (diet, genetics, etc.)
Q: “follow the science” used to mean Discuss, Debate, etc. How did we get to the point where we were told not to Question? How did we pervert the very fundamentals of science?
A; there are too many self interested people who are “poopooing” human beings. We have been appointing the wrong people. The psychological operations part of this is is using the wrong information to mislead the public, putting the wrong people in positions where they have the power. People don’t ever imagine that public health people wold ever lie to them.
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MAJOR TOM HAVILLAND
Retired US Air Force major was intrigued by the segment on embalmers in the movie “Died Suddenly." With his engineering background, he decided to look into the matter more closely. World Wide Embalmer Survey
Sent our surveys re: visual reports of white clotting to Associations of Embalmers. Few associations passed the surveys to their members.
White fibrous clots found on average in 30% the corporses being embalmed. About 20% of the population is being embalmed. No data on those who get cremated.
Canadian and world wide results - averages similar across countries. (US, UK, Australia, Canada)
Sample pages:
70 percent of Canadian responses Yes
30 percent No
Very interested to discover online videos re: a cauterization lab reporting they are pulling 3 - 10 of the white fibrous clots OUT OF THE LIVING per week.
The whistleblower reporting this wanted to remain unidentified. (Ed Note: I am not sure which particular video he meant, it appears this interviewer spoke to multiple people.)
See https://www.youtube.com/@VejonHealth/search?query=cath%20lab%20clots.
He noted that African countries had little uptake with the vaccine and low rates of excess mortality.
Dr. Richard Schabas
Notes not yet proofread - will be smoothed out, posted here for now
retired physician, public health speciality
head of preventative onlocity for Cancer Care ONtario
Chief of staff in York City Hospital during the SARS outbreak
Chief Medical Officer in Ontario for 10 years
would have planned for pandemics during fgthat time
KEY takeaway from the experience of SARS is that there was no serious attempt to investigate the prinicipal public health response to SARS - the use of quarantine for example should have been re-examined afterward. There were 2 kinds of procedures:
QUARANTINE (word from “40 days of Lent” from Middle Ages) Take someone who MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED and put them in some kind of isolation (SPECULATIVELY MIGT BE INCUBATING) 40 years ago, this route was distained not to be used in public health - abandoned long before 2023
CASE ISOLATION - deal with someone you know actually has the infection - this is how they dealt with ending SARS isolating all those who were actually incubating the illness
2 weeks per person of isolation = hundreds of weeks over the population
Highly ineffective - can’t possibly control the infection.
China and Singapore used quarantined so we followed. (No rationale or evaluation)
Dr. Chabas wrote papers to challenge that concept → WHO commuincabe disease manual no reference in 2007 - in 2019 the guidelines stated NOT to do it.
wastage of human potential in quarantine was tremendous.
Q: aware of any research that supports quarantine?
NO but one of the huge advantages of the information era is “the data is out there” but it is not going to fall into our lap. We should be investing time and energy in seeking out the data to know what is worth and not worth doing (ahead of time, i.e. before any “next time”)
He is part of an international Covid data initiative under Jay Bhattacharya
2019 WHO sponsored a look at “non-pharmaceutical measures” for a respiratory pandemic - assed level of evidence for a range of things (quarantine, border closure, contact tracing) evidence weak or non-existent. Within weeks we set out to do the very opposite?
Why did we completely ignore the existing science? (evidence for masks was weak also)
When COVID hit, we flipped and said it was all proven to work
Typically an influenza pandemic lasts 6-8 weeks.
Not only were these things not based on evidence but people were misled about evidence being conclusive when it was weak.
2 kinds of epidemiological evidence
a) ecological study - like masking in a school and impact on covid rates (like a high level satellite photo). generates a hypothesis but is not
An example: starting a masking study just summer, April May June 2020. Rates went down not b/c of masking but because that always happens in the summer respiratory viruses go down (go up again in the fall/winter)
b) case reports and anecdotes - 2 manicurists wore masks and didn’t infect their clients
The science that was used to support these measures was this type of weak science> It was the fault of authors, journal editors, decision makers who should have known better than to rely on something this weak.
2 random controlled trials that were most used to support mask mandates
1 in Denmark - didn’t reduce enough to be statistically significant
1 in Bangladesh - cloth masks ineffective, take the rest of it that said that surgical masks work with a grain of salt - that study should be redone
He sees huge ethical problems with what was done
Health professionals are supposed to be educated in Non Malevolence (do no harm) That is the building block of medical ethics.
Closing schools was speculative (Side note: his granddaughters in Ontario missed about a year of education - much harder for kids in apartments with parents working to keep the society going than for kids with parents working from home and in a larger house.)
Debate around reproductive rights is around autonomoy of the person, here we abandoned autonomy with arguments that soon turned out be false (NO EVIDENCE in clinical trials that the vax would stop transmission. Breakthrough cases soon make it clear that it did not stop)
Second argument to help the healthcare system turned out to be incorrect.
Public health continues to flog the booster doses, also without evidence. The NET EFFECT was to undermine public health.
Risks were greatly overstated - real reluctance of public health to identify the adverse effects. Myocarditis in boys and men was soon known as a real risk, while risks of COVID were small.
The reality of getting older is getting closer to death. We should have put the risks of COVID into a greater perspective. We presented raw numbers without putting them into perspective
Scare people to be compliant with lockdown measures
Risk communication is not easy.
300.000 deaths a year (18,000 COVID death) 2020, up to 80% in long term care facilities
1-2% of death increase for those not living in long term care
For the average 70 year old 1 in a 100 chance of death. = 1%
Every year you get older your risk goes up 10% so at 71 = 1.1%, 72 = 1.2% etc.
With COVID the risk was about one month older = i.e. the “risk of death” did increase faster than if someone had no COVID but not by much.
Many of the decision makers though they were going to die too while the actual increased risk from COVID was very very small.
Health is supposed to be more than about illness, it is about wellbeing.
We threw all the wellbeing stuff out of the window because we were frightened of new, infectious disease
He was frequently approached by the CBC - before he retired (re infections disease, like bird flu, swine flu. Was still a “go-to guy” and wrote a few articles.
March 22, 2020 - 2 days after ON announced lockdown was on a friendly easy going interview with CBC. Then got a phone call re: firestorm on Twitter lead by Maureen Taylor for your interview (former CBC correspondent, then physician assistant) saying his views were akin to a climate change deniers (also a second former public health person Neil Rowe?)
an edict was sent to CBC producers that they were not to be interviewed - 2 of the most prominent voices
He sent an email to Ombudsman re: how he was ‘cancelled’ and then told there was nothing the ombudsman can do.
He focusses on the CBC and professional colleges - these two are publicly accountable
Position paper of the college in ON made that statement that physcisans cannot speak with their patients about masking, vain, etc.
Health is more than the absence of diseae. The importance of determinants of health was well known.
Where did all that disappear to?
ideaology
intimidated by the bosses
need to look at the structure of governance of the public health system
Sweden covid mortality rates were similar to Quebec
Q: 2006 guidelines for handling respiratory pandemics written under the leadership of Dr. Teresa Tam. How did we fundamentally shift the approach away from what was written then.
A: More recently, remember the WHO 2019 influenza pandemic review was also full of reasonable measures, but quickly overruled - closing schools for influenza = just a few weeks.
Q: Would the masks not carry germs on them? did it not affect CO2 levels?
A: There was a meta-analysis of masking and influenza, concluded that masks are of no value - improper wearing, touch, disposal issues
The evidence showed they worked very little or not at all. In the spring of 2020, we can understand the recommendation. But not much longer as data came out
Public health officials
seized with almost a religious zeal, blinded by their own self righteousness
tried to paint him as a libertarian zealot because he thought a nurse should have the right to informed consent
Q: relative vs absolute risk?
A: These concepts are not easy. If you buy one lottery ticket (absolute risk of winning is ZERO) If you buy 2 - your relative risk is 2. But still very small risk. The Absolute risk is still not much more than zero.
Q: any studies done on the long term effect of the isolation on the elders?
Annual mortally rare in LTC homes is 25% - people go there when logically the next phase would be death. Deprive these people of seeing their families. They will die of something else, and won’t see family. So holistically, what have you won?
Needed to be assessed as palliative so family could go see them. We deprive people of what they needed the most, the love of family
Q: re: the disappearance of the common Flu in 2021
A: I am not saying that some measures didn’t work, just saying we don’t have evidence. March 2020 - first large outbreak in New York, announced a lockdonwn, case counts coming down but the hospitalization rates peaked, but looking at incubation rates, you can see the outbreak had already peaked BEFORE the lockdown. - People had kept distance and avoided sick people voluntarily. Can’t say the lockdowns did it.
2020-2021 flu rates went down. But also low in Sweden. we don’t understand the ecology of influenza, what happens to one strain when another strain comes out
Q: re College of Physician and surgeons
self government profession with provincial legislation to oversee licensing of physicians. Arm’s length body set up differently province to province. Unfortunately dominated by those with a special mission!
He knows many doctors who share his scepticism re lockdowns but won’t share anything publicly worried, it is too dangerous.
Recommends writing clauses into provincial legislation….
There were many more excellent testimonies, but I needed to stop note taking.
See DAY 2 for a list of social media accounts where clips of speakers were posted throughout the day.
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Dr. Roger Hodkinson
See also
for a Directory of Testimonies from 2023 by topic.